In this inspiring episode of the Brett Hawke podcast, I had the joy of sitting down to share my journey Between Two Lanes—as both a swimmer and a performance psychologist.

From qualifying for my first Olympics at just 15, to winning a silver medal in Beijing 2008, becoming the second woman ever to break 1:55 in the 200 Free, to studying Performance -Psychology at Berkeley, this episode covers it all:
- What it means to choke under pressure
- Why even elite pilots need mental trainingThe psychology behind race-day freakouts
- How visualization and self-regulation changed my game
- The birth of Between Two Lanes, a mental training program for swimmers—and now high-performers everywhere

Whether you're an athlete, a coach, or a business professional chasing peak performance, you'll walk away with practical tools and deep insight into how elite minds operate under pressure.

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